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Post by shawndx2000 on Nov 8, 2005 1:27:14 GMT 7
Some of you may know who I am, and I know a lot of you don't, to some of you I am just an old guy that runs my mouth. Well say what you want but there is still something that has been on my mind for the past few months about the state of Pro Wrestling and Wrestling Fans in Hong Kong.
To be honest, a little over 4 years ago when I left Hong Kong to the US (And after I closed down DX2000), the scene was filled with die-hard wrestling smarts that seriously know what wrestling over the past 15-20 years are all about. Sure there are some marks here and there, but that's expected because some came in pretty late, but still willing to learn the prospects and tried to gain as much knowledge as possible as a wrestling fan. Just so that they can have an "intelligent" wrestling conversation with another wrestling fan.
4 years later I came back, and what a disappointment Pro Wrestling in Hong Kong and the fans have become, I see a whole bunch of marks, some pushing wrestling in Hong Kong in a wrong direction. Fans just stopped learning, when 4 years ago we had 70% Wrestling Smarts and 30% Wrestling Marks, to now it looks more like 20% Wrestling Smarts and 80% Wrestling Marks is beyond abysmal! Where in the hell have all those great wrestling smarts gone?
I am sorry to say this, but this one is for Hoholun and the crew who have been pushing for the past 4 years. What have you guys done that now this whole scene ended up like this?? More than 4 years ago, if some random wrestling fans in Hong Kong speak the same d**n language with a fan in the US, I bet your ass an HK fan can out-talk a US fan about wrestling. I have seen so many wrestling fans from the US over the past 4 years 99% of the time I had them beat. What in the blue hell have you guys done?
I am sorry, but I am beginning to lose my composure after I have seen how you guys have been working over the past several months. Something has to change because this direction is beginning to go nowhere, and I have some serious concern over the scene.
To be honest, if you want to push this, this is seriously not the way to go.
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Post by Testing V.1 on Nov 8, 2005 2:08:34 GMT 7
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Post by Shawn on Nov 8, 2005 13:30:02 GMT 7
Some of you may know who I am, and I know a lot of you don't, to some of you I am just an old guy that runs my mouth. Well say what you want but there is still something that has been on my mind for the past few months about the state of Pro Wrestling and Wrestling Fans in Hong Kong. To be honest, a little over 4 years ago when I left Hong Kong to the US (And after I closed down DX2000), the scene was filled with die-hard wrestling smarts that seriously know what wrestling over the past 15-20 years are all about. Sure there are some marks here and there, but that's expected because some came in pretty late, but still willing to learn the prospects and tried to gain as much knowledge as possible as a wrestling fan. Just so that they can have an "intelligent" wrestling conversation with another wrestling fan. 4 years later I came back, and what a disappointment Pro Wrestling in Hong Kong and the fans have become, I see a whole bunch of marks, some pushing wrestling in Hong Kong in a wrong direction. Fans just stopped learning, when 4 years ago we had 70% Wrestling Smarts and 30% Wrestling Marks, to now it looks more like 20% Wrestling Smarts and 80% Wrestling Marks is beyond abysmal! Where in the hell have all those great wrestling smarts gone? I am sorry to say this, but this one is for Hoholun and the crew who have been pushing for the past 4 years. What have you guys done that now this whole scene ended up like this?? More than 4 years ago, if some random wrestling fans in Hong Kong speak the same d**n language with a fan in the US, I bet your ass an HK fan can out-talk a US fan about wrestling. I have seen so many wrestling fans from the US over the past 4 years 99% of the time I had them beat. What in the blue hell have you guys done? I am sorry, but I am beginning to lose my composure after I have seen how you guys have been working over the past several months. Something has to change because this direction is beginning to go nowhere, and I have some serious concern over the scene. To be honest, if you want to push this, this is seriously not the way to go. §A«Y«}¥H«e³QÃhºÃ§c¥ª»´äºL°g¿ú¡A¸ò¦í¨«¨Ð¥h¥ª¬ü°êªG¦ìShawn? |
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Post by shawndx2000 on Nov 8, 2005 13:55:03 GMT 7
Not sure where you heard this rumor from, but I have never cheated money out of anyone.
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Post by shawndx2000 on Nov 9, 2005 0:50:29 GMT 7
Hoholun, I am asking you for some answers here, how do you expect me to help you to even bring up the subject of HK wrestling when,
1. You stick your head in your ass?
2. Bring this sh*t to the ground?
3. Ask high-profile wrestlers and old-timers to do interview with you guys?
4. Bring in US sponsors like my old boss' company Profigures.com?
There are people that is helping overseas, but if you are not going to push forward with this, I don't see the point of supporting you guys when all you guys have is a Backyard Wrestling gig (Yeah you heard right, I said it, you can hate me for saying this, I don't care), something that Pro Wrestlers look so far down on, I am sick and tired of seeing how you guys moving forward with this, because it seems to me this has not been going anywhere and it is about time to move forward to other directions. Yet you just sit on your ass and do nothing, you should know how I am now, I will bash you if something ain't right, and d**n you know sh*ts ain't right now.
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Post by Hoholun on Nov 9, 2005 19:04:23 GMT 7
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Post by azirkhan on Nov 9, 2005 19:49:46 GMT 7
Well, i no notting, about 4 years ago, i am a fan of wreslting for long time, i recently know this site, i was shocked that there is a club in H.K since iam not a chinese. but i really appricate thr effort of These guy, may be 4 years ago was even better i dont know i will join here, and help much as i can, well, to promote, well any way we all here should move, by promoting it, or whats so every to let more people now about this thing... well i got no comment about Shawn the Old Guy i think his commnents are some thing to put in mind. not bad, but for sponsering, thing i donno, this club need to more members, or else resourcces is a big pro. well, We need work in a team, .........
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Post by shawndx2000 on Nov 9, 2005 20:19:25 GMT 7
Shawn ¤jô ÁÂÁ§A¤@ª½¹ïºL¨¤ªº¤ä«ù ¨ä¹ê§Ú³£©ú¥Õ§Aªº¤ß±¡ §A´¿¸g¦b»´ä·d¹LºL¨¤ºô ®ÄªG¤]¤£®t ²{¦b§A¤£·F¤F §Ú´N°õ°_¤F§Aªº¤â§À ·dºL¨¤ºô¯¸ §Úª¾¹D§A¹ïºL¨¤¦³«Ü²`¤Jªº»{ÃÑ ¤]ª¾¹D§A¦b³o¦æ¤º»{Ãѫܦh¥~°ê¤H¥K ¤§«e§A»¡¹L Profigures ºô¯¸¦³¿³½ìÃÙ§U¥»ºô ¦ý¨ì²{¦bÁÙ¨S¦³¸Ô²Óªº¸ê®Æ¥L·Q«ç¼Ë°µ ©ÎªÌ²{¦b§A¦³¿³½ìÀ°¤@À°¤âªº¸Ü ¸ò¤@¸ò³o¥ó¨Æ§a~~ ¨º®É§A»¡§Ú°µ¤£¨ìªº¨Æ¡A§Ú¤]°µ±o¨ì¤F ¡]PSP ¹CÀ¸¨º¥ó¨Æ¡A§Ú¬°·|û¨ú±o¤F«D±`«K©yªº! §A¤]nª¾¹D·s¥X PSP ¹CÀ¸ $239 ¬O¶W¼¿¥ªº! §ÚÁÙ°O±o§A¨º®É¸Ü§Ú ¢û¢ñ¢ì¢í ¼¿®ð¡A²{¦b°µ¨ì¤F¡AÁÙ¦³¤ñÁÉ¡A¥ḺN·|ÃÙ§U§ÚÌ¥¿ª©¹CÀ¸§@¤ñÁɼú«~¡^ §A§ÖÂIÀ°¤â¸ò¤@¸ò ¢ø¢ú¢÷¢î¢ñ¢ï¢ý¢ú¢í¢û ªº¨Æ§a¡I ÁÂÁ§A°Ú¡I Without you guys giving me further details on how you guys are going to push this whole thing, how do you expect me to go forward and represent Susan on this sponsorship? You have my phone number and it isn't all that hard to talk about this over the phone, there has been so many occassions where I opened the door and wanted to talk to you but it turned to deaf ears. You see if you are continue acting the way that you are, there isn't all that much I can do. Each time when I told you there are something that can be done, you go with a regular reply, "Sure". How many times do you even get back to me on any updates? How am I suppose to help you when you are not even communicating until I have to pregnant dog and moan over it? Look if you are gonna show me a "don't give a f*ck" attitude, when I go out of my way to help, why the hell should I even bother? If you are serious, then show something that at least give me an impression that you are sincere and want to do something. Not just push a backyard wrestling gig for your own pleasure man. Fill me in on the sh*ts, current happenings, not just when I ask you something, you give a one word reply or just play it off like you are serious. I offered my hands to you months ago, but each time you turned a blind eye to it. If you want me to help you, do something that's worthwhile and show me something that I can have the bargaining power with the guys in the US. Otherwise whatever you are doing will continue to go down in flames and you can go find all those "help" that you think it is useful to you. I will just sit back and watch this go down, hey if you are gonna act like a little pregnant dog with me, that's cool. I just ain't gonna help. I did my part, and got pushed to the side. Sure sure you wanna make it big, looks more like little boys playing in the sand to me. Now I see why WWE ain't even promoting Hong Kong, why bother when the guys pushing it don't even know what to do and what they got in their hands. |
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